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@aaronpk Tell me you're at least planning the conference organizer's nightmare of "accidentally" running over your time and into @barackobama's block, right? ;)


@jgmac1106 A few short thoughts:
1. The explanatory text is nice, but runs a bit long for the uninitiated. I'm always worried that the length turns folks off? Perhaps something shorter for the gist of the idea with a link instead to a particular page that lays it out in more detail? I've also considered hiding some of the extra explanation behind a pop up or by using an abbr (or other appropriate html) tag with appropriate CSS hover markup so that when one hovers over a portion, they get a title-like window with all the gory details. Ideally, over time, with the spread of the concept the explanation won't be necessary at all.
2. One potentially crucial piece you're missing is that the post on their webpage HAS to have the permalink URL for your post on the page, otherwise the webmention will fail. Worse, without this bit of knowledge they won't know why it failed.


@jgmac1106 If you're as poor a theme tinkerer as I am but about to embark on adding microformats to a theme, I might recommend taking a look at the individual commit changes that David Shanske goes through in converting the base Twenty Sixteen Theme into a more IndieWeb friendly theme. The list of commits with useful labels can be found here: Clicking on each of the changes will give you highlighted changes for what he did.

I would recommend starting at the bottom and then slowly reading your way to the top to try to understand what he's doing in each section. Note that there are one or two places where he splits a particular change up between a few commits or occasionally backtracks. There's also a section in which he "rips" out the WP core functionality of Post Formats in favor of using the Post Kinds Plugin--I'd recommend you don't do this to make your resultant theme the most flexible. I believe there's also a section in which he adds a "comment walker" and later removes it because the experimentaly functionality was later merged into the Webmentions/Semantic Linkbacks plugin to better handle comments, so you can safely ignore may of those chunks which are now stable.

I suspect that between this and the code models for SemPress and Independent Publisher (which should also have some David Shanske specific commits and related discussion that you can look up) you may be somewhat better off.

Good luck! We're all cheering for you!


Unless there's some odd, massive breaking change, no you shouldn't.


@jimmyasoni I'm curious what you use for your global Shannon mention search? Is it real-time? Do you have something hand-rolled, use a commercial product? Superfeedr perhaps? What is it?


A quick search of the literature indicates the answer to be no.


@drmichaellevin Was Kidd aware of Blaschko's work two years earlier in 1901?
see also:


@drmichaellevin Important to your definition collection are not only the people defining (and their fields), but the year as well. Cybernetics, to a great extent, also suffered from what Claude Shannon wrote about information theory in "The Bandwagon".


@Bizarro1303 I think the definition (both then and now) is that set forward by Claude Shannon in 1948 in "A Mathematical Theory of Communication". Shannon was an early colleague of N. Weiner who pioneered the version Kolmogorov references.


@khurtwilliams @koolinus In case you'd like to see a comparison of the web we lost to the new that we're building, this overview chart can be helpful:




Yes: Given some earlier conversation in chat with Greg and Ian, I'm expecting a bit of conversation about at this meetup. I can't wait!


@dsample I suspect you're already aware, but for others who come along, some of these functionalities are relatively solid/stable plugins, which we all wish were in core, including


@benwerd Instead of Gutenberg, I'd have core support for the micropub spec and allow a free ecosystem for creating small user friendly custom apps for creating posts of all kinds.