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Biomedical and Electrical Engineer with interests in information theory, evolution, genetics, abstract mathematics, microbiology, big history, IndieWeb, mnemonics, and the entertainment industry including: finance, distribution, representation

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I'm glad @onthemedia brought back their American Expansion episodes w/ @DImmerwahr & @GregGrandin. They've correctly chosen some of their very best to rerun. They're particularly interesting after finishing @WoodardColin's book American Nation. https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/projects/american-expansion

 

@cleverdevil That is wicked awesome! I really want a feed reader that can differentiate and sort between photos, checkins, podcasts, etc. in addition to being able to post likes, replies, and reposts directly to my own site through the UI! Watch out @feedly, @Inoreader, et al.

 

I a replacement library/distribution/discovery mechanism for podcasts instead of defaulting to iTunes. @InternetArchive @MarkGraham @brewster_kahle I suspect you (could build) something like that. (And probably store the content too...)

 

Marty,This is a humongous amount of work you've put into all this and I find it both fascinating and useful. Thanks for outlining out all the details. I wish all the podcasts I listened to did a fraction of what you're doing. The best (worst?) part is that it makes me even more itchy to do some kind of podcast myself.

 

Manton, after having heard/seen your microcasts (and those of others) as well as your mention of podcasting tools above, I thought I'd point out that there's a micropub tool called Screech for podcasts: https://martymcgui.re/2017/03/14/183924/. It may be down the road a tad for micro.blog support, but it's also something that micro.blog could do to change the microcasting space. It could also be a useful differentiator for competing services like Twitter, Mastodon, etc.

 

@realkimhansen @ZeroDistraction Is that just podcasts or podcasts + "article" feeds? There should be a better way of ranking them and sharing them...

 
 

Aaron Parecki's Day 85: Added Podcasts to the IndieWeb this-week Newsletter

 

@mattmaldre What if you could get full transcripts of podcasts? @Signlfm is working on something like this: https://transcripts.hanselminutes.com/

 

Screech, a simple client for posting audio content (such as podcasts) to your own site using Micropub, is now available publicly. You can check it out at https://screech.schmarty.net/.

 

@EddieHinkle Clicking through will show that the text in the Twitter card is a quote of the original, in some part a reminder to me about what it was I had listened to. (It also serves as an advertisement for the thing itself--I like to promote good podcasts.) Most often these posts are just an emoji indicating the post type with the title and source of the thing I listened to. Occasionally I'll add some bit of a reply or commentary and bury the true post type into the Twitter Card along with a quote from the original. eg: https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/825206436305137664

Once in a rarer blue moon I'll throw a snippet of commentary into the Twitter card, but not often. See also https://indieweb.org/bookmark##How+to+POSSE for some thoughts on this. It's ever evolving. I'd love to hear your thoughts on improvement or alternate methods. I particularly like dumping additional data into the twitter cards when I can, though I'm aware that not all Twitter clients make use of them.

If you want to listen to what I'm listening to, you can subscribe to it via http://boffosocko.com/kind/listen/feed/. This feed format also works for other post types like "read", "like", "favorite", "photos", "checkins", "watches", etc.

 

Jeremy, this seemed a little long for Loqi to handle, and seemed worth keeping for later, so my response is below:

I understand your situation and have been following some of the discussion about content ownership and reposting. I'm all about giving credit where it's due, and bend over backwards (as far as I'm technically able) to do so. (Wait until you see some of the chicanery I'm trying to pull of for simple bookmark posts...)

It's for that reason that I provided a direct link to the podcast itself in the post as well as a blockquote synopsis in an effort to advertise on your show's behalf. Embedding the mp3 directly on my page was done as a means of helping people easily "sample" the podcast to get them hooked, in which case they would need to subscribe directly to the source. (I also did it to make it easier for me to relisten to it later if I like.) I'm still trying to get Twitter Player Cards to work properly so that could be an additional avenue for sampling on POSSE copies.

Additionally, by embedding the mp3 (I could have scraped it and then hosted it myself, but really, what's the point of that? unless I really wanted to steal it and run advertising against it for myself), your hosting server gets pinged for the "listen" or for any potential downloads because it's being served directly from your site (and not mine), which presumably most podcasters are tracking for advertising purposes. (YouTube and other video hosters do this for embedded videos.)

What I did was not much different than what Huffduffer is doing in bookmarking audio from your podcast on its site. Huffduffer isn't hosting a separate audio file itself, it's hosting a pointer to your file on its site and also syndicating it via RSS and/or Apple iTunes to others who will ultimately stream it or download it directly from your server. In fact, given this, I'm just acting like a mini-Apple iTunes without as much functionality, but I'm only advertising your podcast and not hundreds of thousands of others.

If you did have sponsors, you would presumably also give them airtime in your podcast which would then be heard as well, and tracked by your own server as a stream start or download. I suspect if you had visual advertising on your site, I could/might also embed that so you get a ping for the page load on my site as well. :)

If you're not aware or need it for clients, WordPress gives you the ability to customize your site's ability to provide oEmbeds, so with/for advertisers, you could add text, media, and even a visual advertisement to the pages for your audio podcasts. Other WordPress sites (or sites that consume oEmbed data) that include your URL in their pages then re-render it as a "player card" which presumably pings your server with a "hit" thus giving you credit for the work. Here's an example of an oEmbed for another WordPress site at the top of this post: http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/29/my-first-pull-request/ See videos for potentially setting this up at: https://wordpress.tv/?s=oembed. This type of set up isn't far removed from publishers who embedded advertising directly into their RSS feeds so that those consuming content via RSS weren't taking a free ride.

Perhaps I'm mistaken about the process, and you may be far more knowledgeable than I given your experience in the space, but I'm pretty sure that by embedding and not copying and hosting it myself, you should be able to garner the lion's share of the credit while I'm just serving as free advertising on your behalf.

As an alternate example, things are somewhat different in Marty's case of creating a separate piece of audio and copying and embedding it into his podcast as aaronpk's music didn't register a ping of any sort (other than possibly a webmention which only happened once), so aaronpk couldn't have monetized his audio the way you could have with a sponsored podcast.

 

Retrieve Running Time for listen and watch post kinds? · Issue #71 · dshanske/indieweb-post-kinds https://github.com/dshanske/indieweb-post-kinds/issues/71

For sites like Soundcloud, ITunes, Netflix, youtube (if it's available) it would be nice to retrieve the "running time" of the music, show, film, etc. to display as a running time in the UI for listen, watch, and jam types (rather than the published/updated) for other post types.

Sample URLs
https://www.netflix.com/watch/60002321?trackId=14170060&tctx=1%2C1%2C711b329a-1ca8-4c14-b4d7-43f682113d2e-14372159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNr0JNwsLy8
https://soundcloud.com/user-154380542/how-to-build-an-autocracy-david-frum-the-atlantic-march-2017
https://open.spotify.com/track/3B3ZOmLGFlAjyBKHbgiblv
https://www.hulu.com/watch/403538
WordPress blueberry podcasts: http://www.eatthispodcast.com/long-live-the-carolina-african-runner/

When not scrape-able, allowing one to simply enter a 0:00:00 time and a finish time and letting it display the appropriate running time (without entering a date) would be useful for these types as well. (I'm presuming it requires dates to calculate currently as I haven't yet checked....)

 

@realkimhansen Catching up on Gillmor Gang podcasts from the end of 2016. But getting ready to hit the hay.

 

.@abrams Could @nuzzel partner w/ @adactio @huffduffer to provide same magic for as it does w/ news? http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/on-discovery-of-good-content-from-the-interwebsa-short-reply