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I'm sorry you've run into this issue. I can't help but wonder if most of the spam is really pingback spam? Much of what you've gotten likely isn't arriving via webmention as I see the following header in your page:
<link rel="pingback" href="https://webmention.io/www.miriamsuzanne.com/xmlrpc" />

My guess along with some minor sleuthing is that the entirety of the spam you're seeing is of the pingback variety as the mechanism by which webmention works is mean to actively decrease the amount of unwanted spam. Vanishingly little Webmention spam has been seen in the wild.

Removing the pingback link from the header of that particular page (or others that might get linked to with heavily trafficked sites like CSS-Tricks which are often pirated) should solve your immediate problem. Hopefully those who are working on additional anti-spam features will add to these measures to further mitigate this sort of issue for the broader publics' use and adoption. I've personally experienced this sort of "attack" at least once in the pingback space and another using the even older refbacks specification. On my small personal site, I leave them all on however, particularly for the small slice of academic blogging community that still uses pingbacks and the benefits generally outstrip the annoyance. Naturally your mileage may vary and you may consider turning them off.

Of course, you'll probably also realize that the reason the CSS-Tricks notification was caught in spam was because it also came in as a pingback and not by webmetion. (I'm pretty sure that they don't have webmention set up to send them, so their site would have only sent a pingback.)

Many of the older systems, including WordPress which are frequently used by these same sorts of pirates, will still send/trigger pingbacks. Within the IndieWeb space, most sites explicitly sending webmention notifications will include h-cards with author names and timestamps which is part of why Max Böck’s filtering solution works well.

On the positive side, I wonder if this sort of notification behavior might help sites like CSS-Tricks to track these sort of bad actors for help in potential take downs of this sort of piracy?

 

@chuckfrey Primarily for note taking (90%) to feed both a WordPress site and an Obsidian database presently, but also for some social annotation (10%) with respect to things I see via https://annotations.lindylearn.io/new/ or individuals' feeds

My Obsidian store serves variously as a zettelkasten, commonplace book, and wiki simultaneously though each of these are discretely fragmented. Of course I could do most of the work via Hypothesis really without any other tools at all, presuming that the data would always be there.

Large swaths of Hypothes.is use is hiding within LMSs or is geared more toward social annotation in classrooms. I'm more interested in people using that content for their future selves or their creative endeavors.

You can find my publicly available material here: https://hypothes.is/users/chrisaldrich

 

@edheil Because of the IndieWeb principle of plurality, you've got a tremendous amount of choice. Part of the issue is that there are SO MANY options and potential combinations of doing things.

What do you want the site to do? How much admin time to you want to spend on it? How flexible and modifiable do you want it to be? What skills do you have? What skills do you want to work on?

Both of the options you mention are excellent, though there's probably more immediate flexibility in WordPress with plugins. If you want something with no admin, but still some reasonable flexibility then micro.blog is a great way to go. (All three support a very broad range of all the IndieWeb building blocks. Of course, this doesn't even touch the custom-built or static site generator spaces which are also available options. And who's to say you should only have one site? ;)

This is a great question to ask in the IndieWeb Dev chat channel for advice from a bigger group of people with a tremendous wealth and diversity of building experience. https://chat.indieweb.org/dev

 

@edheil Bridgy matches posts on your site to Twitter using one of a few methods so that it can backfeed the proper replies to the appropriate posts. Providing it with syndication links is usually easiest, and on WordPress try: https://indieweb.org/u-syndication#How_to_link_from_WordPress

David Shanske's Syndication Links plugin also should have a checkbox set up (non-Gutenberg) for more easily syndicating to Twitter and other services if you like. There are many ways to publish to Brid.gy without visiting it for each. Using Shankse's plugin which sends it Webmentions is probably the easiest, though it may require proper markup in your theme. For the technical part see: https://brid.gy/about#publishing which explains in outline how it works.

I think many of the options are documented either here or on related pages: https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started_on_WordPress

For other options and advice, it may be best/easiest to visit the IndieWeb WordPress chat at chat.indieweb.org/wordpress

 

Other than maybe or with the ActivityPub plugin, are there any other projects that support multiple post types/kinds/objects so that one could have *one* Fediverse home instead of 10?

 

@Kdecherf I use both WordPress with trimmings and WithKnown is lovely out of the box. But unless you enjoy the tinkering/experimenting/learning as a hobby, minimize for admin tax and maximize for fun. @MicroDotBlog is a great turnkey and inexpensive option.

 

Frank, did you ever track the bug down that was causing this issue? I've tried that same article with a few different Micropub clients and I'm not seeing any issues with respect to Post Kinds finding and displaying the correct/expected data. In fact, the Atlantic actually shows quite a bit more data than most sites do.

Perhaps it's your shortcut not actually sending a URL for it to parse? I've also seen issues when trying to post content that contains special characters or emojis which WordPress tends to choke on and not understand. When a post has an emoji in the title or the body somewhere, it creates the post, but doesn't save any of the data in Post Kinds' context-related fields.

 

@vv4rner While I love what RSS enables and there's a huge ecosystem for it, I am against it for DRY reasons. It's stable in the fact that no one has iterated on it in over a decade. It also helps that WordPress core handles a lot of the admin tax for me on maintaining it, but it has caused metacrap issues for me in the past.

So what to do to replace RSS? If you look at most of my content, I've got the HTML marked up with (richer) microformats for those who'd like to consume that directly without needing a side file for it. There's an existing ecosystem of microformats parsers and even social readers that use microformats over RSS. Incidentally microformats are also part of the semantic layer that makes site-to-site converstions on IndieWeb-based sites work better.

 

@JamieTanna @fiinixdesign @hdv Try any platform (social or otherwise) that will let you add a public link to the webpage you're responding to, then use a service for sending them manually. Tumblr, WordPress, etc. should work, though may not be pretty.
https://indieweb.org/Webmention#Manual_Webmentions

 

@jaybearca The Webmention plugin only does notifications. You also need the semantic linkbacks plugin for the parser which will give you the richer data you're looking for.
https://wordpress.org/plugins/semantic-linkbacks/

 

Hanging out with @joesimpsonjr and gang at the WordPress Santa Clarita Meetup
https://www.meetup.com/wordpressscv/events/276956992/

 

@Cambridgeport90 I've been doing some more experimenting lately. Usually I use Known for quicker replies to specific social media. Otherwise I primarily use my WordPress site for almost everything else.

 

Interested in becoming part of the after @t's talk at ? I'm happy to help or answer questions. I've also got some WordPress specific experiments and documentation (on my own website, of course):
https://boffosocko.com/research/indieweb/

 

Wishing I was at today to hear my friend Tantek Çelik @t, web standards lead @Mozilla & @CSSwg, talk on "Take Back Your Web"

Livestream: https://2019.us.wordcamp.org/livestream/saturday/#240 at 2:30PM Central
https://2019.us.wordcamp.org/session/take-back-your-web/

 

After some warm-hearted arm-twisting by the incomparable @VeriousSmith, I've submitted a talk about and to @WordCampRS '19.
Talk or not, I look forward to seeing everyone Nov 8-10.
https://2019.riverside.wordcamp.org/