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Jeremy, I think this was a known issue with the WordPress Semantic Linkbacks pluin and thought it got address/fixed in a recent update. If not, do file a bug at https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks

Also interesting, it looks like Independent Publisher (theme) isn't outputting a permalink for the comments on Among The Stones either. If they're webmentions, all the URLs point to the locations of of comment originals, which makes it harder to target individual comments with fragmentions.

 

Anyone want to join me for an impromptu BoF/hallway session on technologies with @WordPress at this weekend?

 

@coketweet I love your playlists. I'm curious what WordPress plugin you use to make them so beautiful?
http://more.dearcoquette.com/playlists/

 

Jeremy, congrats on owning your reading! I'd recently seen your note about using reading.am, but I've been on holiday and not had a chance to get back to you.

In general it seems like you've found most of the salient pieces I liked about it. For the record these include:
* I like the idea of "bookmarking" everything I'm reading as I read it. Even for things I don't quite finish, I often will want to know what the thing was or how to easily find it at a later date.
* It has an easy to use desktop bookmarklet that makes the friction of using it negligible. (On mobile I use the ubiquitous sharing icon and use my account's custom email address to email links to my account which is quick enough too.)
* Its RSS feed is useful (as you've discovered), but I've integrated it into my WordPress site using IFTTT.com for porting the data I want over. In my case I typically save the post as a draft and don't publicly publish everything that my lesser followed reading.am account does. Generally once a day I'll look at drafts to add some notes if necessary, or do some follow up reading/research (especially when I've read something interesting via mobile and didn't have the time), and then publish a subsection of the captured reads as public.

I've filed an issue with the developer to see if he'd include the comment data within Reading.am into the RSS feed so that it could be included in the passed data, so that when commenting there, the commentary could also be passed across to my site as well.

While I typically prefer to default to POSSE when I can, this PESOS workflow is generally acceptable to me because it required very little effort and I like having the drafts to determine which I should post publicly/privately as well as for a nudge on potential follow up for some of what I've read.

One other small thing I had done was (via plugin) to have any links on my site auto-post to the WayBackMachine on archive.org as I read/post them that way there's a back up version of what I'd read so that in the future copies are available even if the site goes down at a future date. I suspect you could do this with a simple POST call, an example of which I think is documented in the wiki.

As a subtle tweak you may wish to take a look at https://www.reading.am/p/4MDd/https://www.wired.com/2014/08/handle_change/. I noticed that you bookmarked something as read a second time having clicked through via a reading.am link. This causes reading.am to mark the second one as "Jeremy Cherfas is reading this because of Jeremy Cherfas" which means the "because of Jeremy Cherfas" manages to sneak into your RSS feed in the title. I suspect this wouldn't happen often, so you could probably ignore it, but you could throw it into your Regex filter to trim it out when it does happen. (When you click on reading.am links, they process to show that you're reading something as a result of someone else having posted it, which could show some interesting network effects though the reading.am network is relatively small.)

I know you're always saying that you're not a developer, but you've puzzled out a regex filter, implemented it, and posted it to your site for others to benefit. I would submit that you could now proudly wear the title even if you have no intention to do it professionally. Neither of us may be at the level of people like aaronpk or snarfed, but then, really, who is?

I also love that you've got a Webmention form set up, working, and looking great. Congratulations! If you want a small challenge, perhaps you could massage it to create a Grav plugin so others could easily implement it? If you want less challenge (and obligation for support), perhaps submit what you've got as an issue to the Grav Webemention plugin https://github.com/Perlkonig/grav-plugin-webmention and see if they'd add it into the bigger plugin where it would also make sense having it. (They may also default to having it use their own webmention implementation instead of the heroku version.) If nothing else, consider linking/documenting it on the wiki page for Grav where others may find it more easily in the future.

Congratulations again Mr. Developer!

 

Here's roughly the reason that the "Like" button is being pushed into your syndicated copies: https://github.com/Automattic/jetpack/issues/4399

Ultimately, I decided that very few people were using that like functionality on my site (which is WordPress specific), so I just turned it off in JetPack to "fix" the problem. There are other possible methods to fix it within your theme, but it will ultimately be very hacky based on my past attempts.

 

@kongaloosh Happy to help via any means, though IW chat channel may be easiest.

 

@jensimmons The best content-type-focused CMS set ups I've seen with the broadest array of out-of-the-box supported types are @WithKnown (+plugins http://docs.withknown.com/en/latest/plugins/community/) and @WordPress with the Post Kinds plugin http://indieweb.org/static-site

 
 

@devilgate I'd noticed that too... Perhaps report the bug here: https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-uf2

 

.@WordPress is supposed to be democratizing the web, and this sounds like anything but
http://www.brinzan.com/2017/07/inside-wordpress-trt-money-abuse/

 

I'm sure I've used this same signal sub-consciously in the past. Fortunately most spammers don't bother to add avatars of any stripe. Although I've also found that even many actual legitimate commenters (and specifically WordPress users) don't know about or don't have a gravatar account either. Better yet, I've turned off traditional comments in the past in preference for webmentions, for which I've yet to see any native spam yet. The majority of people using this method seem to take their identity a bit more seriously which also raises the signal-to-noise threshold.

 

@macleodan iirc, @jimmymansaray had same question last year. I know he looked at both @WordPress & @withknown.

 
 

I suspect that markdown or semi-complicated html (like you, I occasionally like to do this too, even if it's just bold or italics) in replies are a second class citizen because most major CMSes (including Known) strip out or severely limit (for security reasons) the html that is accepted in comment fields. In fact, to conserve on space, I've even noticed that many even strip out blank lines between paragraphs! Many also will mark as spam comments that have one or more URLs in them. As a result doing fancy or even mildly complicated html or markdown in replies is something for which most platforms just don't build.

The other issue in status updates and replies is that they're often syndicated to other platforms and it's a more difficult issue to properly do this with each snowflake social media silo depending on how they individually handle html/markdown (or not). I do this sometimes in WordPress to properly format syndicated content, and it easily triples the amount of manual work, so be careful what you wish for. (This may also be the reason I love Known so much too!)

Every now and then I'll write an extended reply to someone's post that gets to the point that headings, additional structure, and the frills become much more valuable. In those cases, I'd probably then default to make them posts/articles and add the additional touches and then do a manual mark up of u-in-reply-to to have them show up as a reply instead of just a mention. This happens so generally rarely that it's not too much of a headache.

Either way, the end result on the other person's site isn't something I can ever control for, so I try not to sweat it too much. :)