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@dsample I suspect you're already aware, but for others who come along, some of these functionalities are relatively solid/stable plugins, which we all wish were in core, including https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb-post-kinds/

 

@davidlaietta For WordPress related activity in the area of , among many others you should generally know are @dshanske (aka GWG), @pfefferle, and @schnarfed (aka snarfed).

In addition to a lot of IndieWeb specific pieces @pfefferle has also done some work on ActivityStreams (https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitystream-extension/) while @schnarfed has some great work with https://fed.brid.gy/ and https://indieweb.org/bridge#ActivityPub

I've written a lot of intro related pieces which may help you get started: http://boffosocko.com/research/indieweb/. In particular, the second two in the "Introductory Articles" section may be the most useful higher level overviews for you. The wiki has a large number of pages devoted to a WordPress worldview starting here: https://indieweb.org/WordPress.

Along with a plethora of others (who I've always found very warm and welcoming) we're all often hanging out in the IndieWeb chat rooms (there's a specific related one as well): https://indieweb.org/discuss. If you want to hop on a conference call, I'm happy to walk you through some of the basics and point you in the direction of areas you're most interested in checking out.

If you're free at the end of June, the IndieWeb Summit is a great place to start as well: https://2018.indieweb.org/. Many of us are planning on attending. If you can't make it in person, we should be livestreaming a lot of it for remote attendees as well.



 
 

@jgmac1106 @DoOO I think that one day in the not-too-distant future, the half a dozen IndieWeb plugins for WordPress will not only merge together, but they might also enter the core product, thus making them simpler and easier to use. WordPress can be made much more flexible and extensible with plugins for a variety of purposes and there's a tremendously valuable community and ecosystem that's already there. Further, I think that companies, similar to Reclaim Hosting and the DoOO movement, will eventually spring up to make hosting and owning one's own site simpler and easier. While there's a lot of value baked into Known, its community and resources aren't (yet!) as large or as flexible as WordPress or even other open source communities. Fortunately the IndieWeb principle of plurality will show us the way forward. The more things working toward openness and shared standards will make these ideas all the stronger.

While the recent spate of work on IndieReaders is awesome and inspiring, I'm also curious what is next after that? IndieBrowsers? IndieHardware?

Ultimately I'm grateful that we're all here pressing the boundaries and experimenting with what is possible.

 

@matthilt There's a number of ways of doing this typically under the titles of POSSE or PESOS. Some for WordPress are documented here: https://indieweb.org/WordPress/Plugins#POSSE_Plugins
Specifically for Instagram, I think the majority use OwnYourGram.
Typically the more control you want over output for syndication means a bit more work upfront, while the easy solutions give you less control over how things look. Feel free to ask for opinions in chat as well either in the main channel or the channel.

 

@dajbelshaw Noterlive is primarily a posting interface to Twitter (mostly for livetweeting though it could continue to add some of that functionality in the future) that gives you back your data. You would still want to pay some attention to your account for side conversations and replies as well as other conference activity. In many cases I use it primarily as a note taking tool to keep content for archival purposes after the fact.

For additional two-way interaction you could use WordPress plugins like Webmention and Brid.gy Publish to get the comments, likes, etc. back to your website. I've outlined a piece of that type of workflow here: http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/15/mentions-from-twitter-to-my-website/ (This might also be useful to you if you've left Twitter, but still want to know when you're being mentioned without needing to log into Twitter to check it.)

Otherwise, you might also consider going full IndieWeb, in which case you could post everything directly from your website and syndicate to Twitter and then getting all the responses directly back to your site. Some of this depends on how much work you want to do to get the moving pieces working properly. You'll notice this is roughly what I'm doing on my own site with you now. Example: http://stream.boffosocko.com/2018/dajbelshaw-in-future-if-you-prefer-to-keep-your-content

 

@sadlerjw You've certainly found a few of the remaining pain points within the broader community and specifically with WordPress. There are obviously some UI bits like properly threaded conversations across multiple syndicated silos that could be better. I've written a tad about how threaded comments work between sites using WordPress, though didn't touch on the idea of doing so also using Twitter or micro.blog: http://boffosocko.com/2017/12/15/threaded-replies-with-webmentions-in-wordpress/

Ideally in the end, everything would support Webmention and needing to syndicate to outside services would be somewhat moot.

As long as the conversation for something on micro.blog starts on your own site, the replies that occur there will generally flow back to your site via Webmention, but sadly one needs to use some manual chicanery to get a similar back and forth effect with other services like Twitter.

I suspect that in the coming months/year(s) things on this end will improve as the community marches forward.

Either way, congratulations on what you've done with you're site! Hope to see you around either via reader or micro.blog.

 

The magic is likely courtesy of the fact that my post has a meta tag for og:image that includes (or transcludes) that image from Naughton's website. It's something I added in for syndicating to sites like Twitter or Facebook to add a little visual interest. I suspect that whatever you're using to unfurl the page on your site is picking up that data to display it as context for your like. You'll notice that the same photo appears on Twitter as well: https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/985421744348381184

I'm currently doing this with fields in the All In One SEO plugin for WordPress, though I suspect that Yoast and other Open Graph meta related plugins will do it as well. More often than not I use the functionality to force particular photos to be shown in syndicated services. Usually I'll also transclude the photo in my own post, so in most cases you probably wouldn't have guessed. Sharp eye for having noticed here Jeremy.

 

@spigot Yes, you have to publish first. Looks like there's something putting a lot of hidden svg files into your content. A plugin perhaps?
You can also find some potential help in the chat at https://chat.indieweb.org/wordpress/

 

@johnjohnston This presentation makes my itch for a public multisite install with an stack even worse... I may have to pick your brain a bit more on it.

 

This is just the kind of post I added a chicken feed to my WordPress site for.
https://twitter.com/openetc/status/979406583854698496?s=09
http://www.boffosocko.com/kind/chicken/

 

@SchumakerA If you've already got WordPress set up, you could get most of the big functionality in just a few hours with a few easy to install plugins. The tougher part might be a few tweaks to your theme if it's necessary for presentation.

 

@mattmaldre Come join us in the chat if you need any help:
https://chat.indieweb.org/wordpress/

 

@zmoglesby @WithKnown I just posted my first "official" one yesterday, but it was to my @WordPress site... :(
My guess is that there's not a huge amount of interest in general based on the extant examples, but if it's an itch for you, then venture forth!

 

Part of the point and beauty of the IndieWeb movement is that you can choose any platform or set up you choose! There are far more options than just Known and WordPress. The harder problem is is to figure out what it is you want to do online. Then you can find, build, or find and build a tool that best suits those needs. If you need help, feel free to try the chat rooms at https://indieweb.org/discuss.