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I'm still attempting to understand the larger world of indieweb code for WP, but I'm relatively sure that the issue I'm seeing is potentially coming out of the WP Semantic-Linkbacks plugin.

The issue:
Likes from Facebook as well as likes and RT's from Facebook are feeding into the the WP comments dashboard from brid.gy properly, but once being approved, aren't actually showing up in the comments section of the related WP post.
I've done a quick test with a comment with text on the same Facebook post and don't seem to be seeing the same issue and it seems to show up fine in the comments on the post once approved.

Example:
WP post: <a href="http://lfl8424.boffosocko.com/2015/08/20/todays-books-august-20-2015/">http://lfl8424.boffosocko.com/2015/08/20/todays-books-august-20-2015/</a>;
Associated facebook post: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ChrisAldrich/posts/10100846770831315">https://www.facebook.com/ChrisAldrich/posts/10100846770831315</a>;

As this is a relatively new site, perhaps there's some small thing that I'm missing or forgetting? I set it all up with the WP IndieWeb plugin (v2.2.0) and everything within it is current and installed/configured (except Hum and Micropub).

Its possible that it's something similar to a related issue I'd had before on a different WP install (see: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention-for-comments/issues/1) though that seemed to be fixed (by itself?) shortly thereafter.

Within the WP admin interface, (http://lfl8424.boffosocko.com/wp-admin/comment.php?action=editcomment&c=25)
in the editable comment section, I'm seeing something similar to the following:

<code><a href="http://lfl8424.boffosocko.com/2015/08/20/todays-books-august-20-2015" rel="nofollow"></a>
<a href="http://lfl8424.boffosocko.com/2015/08/20/todays-books-august-20-2015/" rel="nofollow"></a></code>

So there is data there, it's just not being parsed/rendered properly somewhere.

Since I've got another WP set up that seems to be operating properly with the same general set up, has anyone got any ideas?

 

Drupal & ? @KevinMarks I'm making plans for @LADrupal in 2 weeks & was considering a session to introduce people to the movement.

I've dabbled in for a while via WordPress and @WithKnown, but I'm curious if anyone can give me some advice/help/pointers with logistics from the IndieWebCamp side? It's been a while since there was something in the LA area (http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/Hollywood), but it would be nice to have the relatively large developer community here more engaged on a regular basis. Perhaps this meeting of about 500 at the UC Irvine campus can help to spill over into regular meetings in the Los Angeles and Southern California areas?

Is there anyone in the area who's available August 29th (preferably) or 30th that would like to join me in doing this?

 

My WordPress install just started porting in replies to replies on Facebook! @schnarfed, https://www.brid.gy/ & https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb/

 

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@raumzeit77 http://indiewebcamp.com/wordpress has some pretty great resources for implementing IndieWeb on WordPress.

If it helps, try following some of what @pfefferle and @dshanske are doing here on GitHub as they seem to be two of the foremost IndieWeb-ers in the WordPress space. They've got wealth of plugins and know far more than I, though I do my best to dabble as I have time.

 

My @Quora answer to Is there a quick way to republish Twitter updates onto a blog? http://www.quora.com/Is-there-a-quick-way-to-republish-Twitter-updates-onto-a-blog/answer/Chris-Aldrich?srid=qkX

There are a small variety of answers here some of which (including Ashton Kutcher's suggestion of the formerly awesome ping.fm) are already defunct in less than a year or two, which indicates the fickle and rapidly changing nature of the internet.

I'll start by not accepting the premise of the question, but modifying the conceptualization to something more interesting and robust. Since there are hundreds upon hundreds of defunct web services many of which have died with little to no advance warning and which more often than not were information silos that didn't allow their users to export their data (see: site-deaths - IndieWebCamp [http://indiewebcamp.com/site_deaths]), I would highly recommend asking the following question instead:
"Is there a quick way to cross-publish or syndicate my content to Twitter?"

The hidden sentiment of the original question: "how can I easily keep my own data in the eventuality that Twitter disappears?" is really the root of the problem and is one which the IndieWeb movement has been diligently working on for several years. I'll let them speak for themselves:

Your content is yours
When you post something on the web, it should belong to you, not a corporation. Too many companies have gone out of business and lost all of their users’ data. By joining the IndieWeb, your content stays yours and in your control.

You are better connected
Your articles and status messages can go to all services, not just one, allowing you to engage with everyone. Even replies and likes on other services can come back to your sites o they’re all in one place.

You are in control
You can post anything you want, in any format you want, with no one monitoring you. In addition, you share simple readable links such as Page on example.com. These links arepermanent and will always work.
-- Source: IndieWebCamp [http://indiewebcamp.com/]

The general philosophy is that it is easy enough to own your own site, own your own data, and then syndicate it out to any of the variety of content silos that exist (while sucking additionally created follow-on data, such as comments, likes, etc. back into your own site), so that you can simultaneously take advantage of the network effects of these silos while still owning everything and not chancing that it will disappear without warning. I'd highly recommend surfing around the IndieWebCamp site for a bit, but I imagine that most will find it actually describes the way many wished the internet worked.

Now that we've got the background philosophy of the question sorted out, let's take a look at the semantics of the solution. The question is essentially asking about the IndieWeb concept of Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere (aka POSSE [http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE]). The mechanics are somewhat different depending on the home platform on which one builds one's site, but almost all platforms allow one to at least post the "headline" of their post along with a permalink manually. IndieWeb forward platforms like Wordpress, Tumblr, Drupal, and WithKnown either have the functionality to cross-post to twitter automatically or do so fairly easily with simple and free plugins (e.g.: WordPress's ubiquitous plugin has a "publicize" functionality that allows crossposting to major silos like Facebook, Twitter, Google+, Tumblr, and LinkedIn among others). Most of these also have either built in or plugin functionality to pull comments, likes, and reshares from the specific silo back to the original content, so that all of it is memorialized in the same place. For those that need it, the POSSE page at IndieWebCamp (linked above) has a variety of ideas and resources for a variety of platforms.

 

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There are two Fragmentions plugins available that might be included in the IndieWeb plugin:

Christiaan Conover:
https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-fragmention/
https://github.com/cconover/wp-fragmention
Luis Rodriguez:
https://wordpress.org/plugins/fragmentions/
https://github.com/goblindegook/Fragmentions/

At present Conover's has 20+ installations and was written first while Luis's has 0 installs,but is more recently updated. Both seem to work on my site reasonably well, though someone more experienced than I may have an opinion on which is "better" from a coding standpoint.

 

My answer to Question on @Quora: Would it be worth it to study category theory? http://qr.ae/R7u9ME

The sad answer for most in your situation is: probably not yet. There just isn't a broad layer of applied use of category theory in your area yet. (I'll note that I'm also an electrical engineer with a background in information theory.) HOWEVER, this certainly doesn't mean it's not important and that the future won't find lots of applications for it, particularly given its abstraction and ability to connect disparate areas of mathematics. On the bleeding edge of research, however, it's another story. (For a flavor of some of this, take a look at John Baez's blog Azimuth: https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/?s=category+theory). Given my diverse mathematical background, I have no doubt that category theory will be exceedingly important over the next century, and particularly in the area of communications.

My suggestion to you, particularly as you mention that it seems very abstract, is that you do some preliminary background work in abstract algebra, combinatorics, and even set theory, which will likely be much more immediately applicable to your present area of study. These will give you a far better preparation for attacking category theory in the future. (I can't recall having seen or heard any EE departments even suggesting category theory courses recently, much less requiring them, even at the master's level. Further, very few universities are offering coursework directly in the topic at the moment, so it's far more likely that you'll only see it at the graduate level.

Those looking to dip their feet in the water might consider taking a look at How to Bake Pi: An Edible Exploration of the Mathematics of Mathematics by Eugenia Cheng [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465051715/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0465051715&linkCode=as2&tag=boffosocko-20&linkId=3QHVSGPXXWMTWGE2] which just came out in May in the US. It's a popular science text which gives some good overview of the subject and is the only book in that space at the moment to my knowledge.

I'll recommend that, if you're impatient, you take a peek at David Spivak's book Category Theory for the Sciences [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0262028131/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0262028131&linkCode=as2&tag=boffosocko-20&linkId=BW3G2IMA3JGCU2FC] which is currently one of the best introductory books on the market for those without more advanced background in mathematics. It was released last year by MIT Press and most of it can be found for free on the web - see the study site mentioned below for details. While it doesn't jump right in with heavy theorems/proofs the way most other popular texts in the area do, it does require a reasonable amount of mathematical sophistication, and it does provide a wealth of introductory material in chapters 1-4 on functions, sets, homomorphisms, isomorphisms, basic group theory, for those who don't have any background in set theory, basic topology, or abstract algebra.

As you're roughly in the same area I am, I'll mention that my interest in the topic was recently piqued by an article by Ilyas Khan: Category Theory – the bedrock of mathematics? [http://boffosocko.com/2015/04/30/category-theory-the-bedrock-of-mathematics-via-ilyas-khan/] It prompted me to drop my prior summer plans and create a category theory study group with a group of friends and many strangers. [see: Category Theory Study Group [http://cat.boffosocko.com/], which has a HUGE list of resources (including videos) in the area and is meant for students and self-study; feel free to join us if you'd like.]

As someone currently studying the topic, I will note that it isn't very difficult so far, and is relatively much easier than topics like advanced algebraic topology or Lie groups, so it could certainly be done at an advanced undergraduate level, but I'd certainly recommend diving into Spivak's book before any/many of the others which require a much higher level of mathematical sophistication typically required at the master's level or above. I would suggest that if you've done coursework in calculus and linear algebra and know most of the material in a book like A Primer of Abstract Mathematics (Classroom Resource Materials) by Robert B. Ash [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0883857081/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0883857081&linkCode=as2&tag=math01-20&linkId=J4TBWXWBEVTPHDU7http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0883857081/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0883857081&linkCode=as2&tag=math01-20&linkId=J4TBWXWBEVTPHDU7], you should be able to tackle Spivak's book without too much difficulty. Having one or more of the other prerequisites I mentioned before would certainly help you move through the material much faster.

 
 

@diane1859 You might add a twitter follow button to your blog, so you're easier to find: https://en.support.wordpress.com/twitter/twitter-follow-button/

 

Teaching problem solving | Work in Pencil

Comparing some interesting problem solving methods

 
 

I like what you've done with the final product and have always thought about doing something similar myself, particularly after I saw what Martin Fenner (https://plus.google.com/106537123721037364937/posts) did with his site at http://blog.martinfenner.org/ which actually allows others to make changes to it via github. Naturally, I'm also highly interested in his take on scholarly communication too, which makes me want to delve in there even more.

Another thing I've been playing around with lately has been some tools/toys at http://indiewebcamp.com primarily within WordPress (I noticed you had one at http://teaching.proftalbert.com/, so you're at least somewhat familiar) though also a bit with http://withknown.com which is a platform built specifically with education in mind (https://withknown.com/education/).

A large part of their philosophy is to own one's own data and then syndicate it out to other social media/external site, but some of their infrastructure allows one to easily make posts on one's own page which then act as replies on another's site. This is particularly interesting from the viewpoint of teaching wherein students and professors can interact with each other, but still have/own all of their individual work. (Incidentally, it also makes for using one's own site as a commonplace book of sorts, which I often find valuable.)

As an exmple, you'll notice on the post on my blog http://boffosocko.com/2015/05/21/category-theory-anyone/ got automatically syndicated to Google+ the other day. Then you replied to it within Google+ but my site sucked your comment back into the comments section on my original blog post, thereby keeping the conversation on my site and not only just on Google's.

 

I've been doing something similar myself, particularly given the number of social media outlets to which one can publish. To solve part of the problem, I've been attempting to utilize the tenets of the Indie Web (http://indiewebcamp.com/) as well as several of their projects including WordPress and WithKnown. Perhaps some of the material you'll find there will help you to hone what you're trying to accomplish in your "project." One of my favorite portions is being able to publish everything in one place and then syndicate it everywhere else that makes sense as well as to give it the broadest reach. Having a handful of sources like Twitter and Facebook feed back into the comments is pretty nice as well. I've written a tad about it at http://www.boffosocko.com as well. Perhaps you might keep your WordPress blog as a primary hub and then cross-post the appropriate material here to take advantage of your audience?

 

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Just noticed via @benborges_ that @dshanske has a semantic markup plugin for @WordPress under way! https://github.com/dshanske/wp-semantics