I'll check to see if it's the case with altplatforms' bug, but I've discovered that it's having Jetpack's commenting feature "Let readers use WordPress.com, Twitter, Facebook, or Google+ accounts to comment" activated that prevents the Webmention Form from appearing on the page. If I deactivate it, it not only appears properly, but shows up twice with the standalone plugin installed.

Incidentally it also causes issues on my 2016 theme where if one types too much in the enclosed field, the UI moves down and it becomes impossible to actually post the comment!

While I'm thinking about it, as an Indieweb-forward thought, would it be possible to put the Webmention Form at the top of the comment section instead of underneath it? While I'm (and I'm sure most of us are) receptive to comments in general, it would be nice to encourage others to own theirs at the top and then provide the default comment form underneath it. Just a thought...

I'll do some additional testing and report the bug to JetPack shortly.

Another interesting piece that's related to webmention and feed readers is the <a href="https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/">W3C Micropub spec</a> that I believe was released on the same day as ActivityPub. There are already feed readers like www.woodwind.xyz that allow you to not only subscribe and read your friends who publish to their own sites, but you can use it to micropub "likes" and "replies" to those posts directly from the reader and to publish them directly to your own website if it supports the micropub spec (and yes, there's already a WordPress plugin for that). These micropubbed posts can then, in turn, send webmentions from your own site to your friends' posts to be displayed as comments there.

More details on all of these and how they can interact can be found on the wiki at https://indieweb.org.

I'll second Ryan's comments and raise them to the second power. WithKnown is a stunning product. A CMS, but with so much more power that it really should be an entirely new category of its own. It does what I've always wished the web could do for the past 20+ years.

@chrisbolas Are you syndicating to Twitter from your site yet? Or getting comments backfed with brid.gy?

Depending on how they show up, I'll sometimes take webmentions which show up as "XXX mentioned this on YYY" and change the metadata in wp_comments or wp_comment_meta so that they appear as replies and actually reveal all their content in the comments section, depending on how I'd like them to display.

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I'm thinking it's odd that with comments and marginalia off, one would go to somewhere like Twitter to read the commentary there. I've been considering turning off comments myself, but am considering keeping webmentions which typically have a higher level of thought and quality because people are required to write and post on their own site to send them.

John, congratulations on your first reply attempt. Looks pretty good.

I'm guessing that the fact that the URL you used (http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/it-looks-like-you-may-be-using-the-post-kinds#comments) had a #comments on the end, may have confused my site upon receipt. I'll do some tests...

Perhaps I'm not quite reading your meaning properly, but I'm curious about the portion about your having turned off comments. I also notice your link requesting to "Comment on this at Medium". Both seemed odd to me as some of the benefit of having an indieweb site is having things set up to have better two way communication with others, while still owning the and having control and agency over the conversation.

This being said, I have, however, been considering turning off generic public (and anonymous) comments in favor of receiving comments only via webmentions. I think the fact that users who wish to comment on my content needing to post it on their own site first helps cut down on the spam and poorly thought out me-too commentary.

To some extent I think this was the tremendous value of Tumblr's not having a native commenting system. In their paradigm, to comment on something, one needed to put their commentary into their own personal stream first to be able to push the comment to the receiver's site as a secondary action. The social consequences of this are much stronger in terms of cutting back on a lot of junk, spam, and personal attacks because it becomes personally identifiable as representing themselves first and foremost (especially on their own site). Some of the problems Twitter and others have stem from users not really owning their content or their identities on those platforms which makes it much easier to become a nameless/faceless bully.

In some sense I think of it by analogy as a "Christmas tree effect". One purchases a wonderful Christmas tree and only puts up the useful and pretty decorations on it because it's what they and others who visit will see in broad view--often even publicly through their window from the street outside their home. Very few will go out of their way to buy a shabby looking tree and festoon it with dreadful ornaments as it's something ugly that not only they see constantly within their own home, but which will publicly brand them as such to friends, family, and even outsiders within their community.

Separately, thanks for the example your site provides. There are many subtleties you've got within your theme that I've been slowly working my way toward as well. I appreciate the way you've laid out and delineated the content. I also love the idea of a microcast which is something I've been contemplating for ages, but have never gotten around to actually doing. Your version and conceptualization are inspiring me to take another hard look at actually doing something.

@keithjgrant I was just thinking that omnibear would be a cool tool for creating quick /read and /bookmark posts along with short comments

I'm not seeing the HTML export on the desktop version of Kindle (from 2015) on my work laptop at the moment, but I'm positive it's hiding somewhere on my desktop machine, which is currently out of commission for some quirky problems. When I get it running, I'll try to document the feature as I don't think I've seen it mentioned anywhere else and it was tremendously easy and helpful.

I hadn't tried Bookcision as I'd stumbled across what I supposed was an easy answer, but there are a few edge cases for non-Amazon books in my collection that might benefit from using it as Amazon doesn't always play well with content that doesn't originate from the "mothership".

A while back, I'd bookmarked http://the-digital-reader.com/2015/02/21/how-to-download-your-kindle-notes-and-highlights-and-export-them/ as one of the better articles explaining most of the pathways currently available. If I remember the comments were relatively helpful as well.

For general file conversion you might appreciate Pandoc: http://pandoc.org/

There are also some in the community who have tools (like Kevin Marks' http://www.unmung.com/ ) which can do inter-conversion. I can't recall specifics at the moment, but someone in the chat will likely know of the others, or you can search github to find some of the opensource ones https://github.com/search?q=indieweb&ref=opensearch (it can be an interesting browse in general for things you didn't know you needed/wanted).

Finally, I liked the teleprompter.css hint for marked2, but if you've not come across it, I often read newspaper, magazine articles, and fiction on my mobile using RSVP-related technology (Rapid Serial Visual Presentation) which has been patented (though I'm not so sure it's enforcable) by http://spritzinc.com/get-spritz and for which there are multiple apps floating around for multiple platforms. My favorite thus far is Balto-reader which I think may only be available in the Amazon store, but it's one of the few I've found that can break through Amazon's encryption to allow using Spritz-like technology on my Kindle Fire or Android Phones. I don't recommend using it to read technical documents or passages which require more thought, but it's lovely on mobile and has a nice bookmarklet for reading web-based articles quickly. If it's something you think you'd use, but you can't find something that can access Amazon books, let me know and I can suggest some workarounds that will allow Amazon book access.

I'm using a relatively standard WordPress set up with a handful of relatively standard "alternate" feeds advertised in my site <header>, but Feedly doesn't seem to be discovering them. I'd set it up in December (discussion here: http://boffosocko.com/2016/12/18/rss-feeds-a-follow-up-on-my-indieweb-commitment-2017/ ) and I recall Feedly found the alternate feeds at the time. Has Feedly changed the way it finds alternate feeds?

If it helps to troubleshoot, my site is at http://www.boffosocko.com. And at the moment Feedly seems to only find the first (and canonical WordPress) feed, but none of the other half a dozen or so which are primarily defined to create subsets of the original RSS feed based on categories or tags using typical WordPress methods. (Kudos by the way on apparently getting rid of the bug that defaulted to finding WordPress comments feeds first instead of the primary feed.)

For some reason, the old Feedly bookmarklet I use (is this still supported as I don't see it on the feedly site anymore) will work for most sites to add fees, but doesn't redirect properly to add mine instead the url indicates that it finds my json/oembed alternate link:
https://feedly.com/i/subscription/feed/http://boffosocko.com/wp-json/oembed/1.0/embed?url=http%3A%2F%2Fboffosocko.com%2F&format=xml
and then reports that no feed was found.

Using my direct URL in Feedly.com search appears to work as does the chrome Feedly mini, though they both only seem to find the primary feed and none of the other alternates as I would expect?

Thanks in advance for any hints or advice to fix this!