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@chrislaursen @ftrain You can also follow along in the chat: http://indieweb.org/discuss

 

Anyone want to join me for an impromptu BoF/hallway session on technologies with @WordPress at this weekend?

 

Wishing I could attend New York in person this weekend. I highly recommend it to others.
https://2017.indieweb.org/nyc

 
 
 
 

A nice thread to contemplate for community CoC. https://twitter.com/sarahmei/status/899881265989537792?s=09

 

@AneliseHShrout You can find the IRC/Slack/etc details here: http://indieweb.org/discuss (#Known on freenode) or archived with search https://chat.indieweb.org/. Some Known users are also frequently in the main or -dev channels which are often more active around the clock.

The email/Google group can be found at: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/known-dev

Another useful resource is the IndieWeb wiki which also includes http://indieweb.org/Indieweb_for_Education as well as examples and ideas--many using Known--spread throughout the rest of the wiki.

 

@billbennettnz @davewiner I think I mentioned to you that @Chronotope was mulling something over along these lines:
https://twitter.com/Chronotope/status/830097158665801728

I'm curious if there's a middle ground? The way that @davewiner does his blog with updating hashes throughout the day would be interesting within news distribution, that way the URL changes, but at the same time it doesn't really. Example: http://scripting.com/2017/08/17.html#a094957 (Naturally the ability to update RSS feeds over time would be useful---as he describes in this particular post--, but it would also depend heavily on how users are subscribing to their news.) In his case, the updates are categorized by day/date rather than topic or category which is what an unfolding story would more likely do in a digital news publication.

In some sense, these hashes are related to the IndieWeb concept of fragmentions: https://indieweb.org/fragmention, though in their original use case, they're meant to highlight pieces within a whole. This doesn't mean they couldn't be bent sideways a little to serve a more news-specific piece that includes a river of updates as a story unfolds--especially since they're supported by most browsers. It would be much easier to syndicate the updates of the originals out to social media locations like Twitter or Facebook this way too. Readers on Twitter, for example, could see and be directed to the latest, but still have easy access to "the rest of the story" as Paul Harvey would say.

Depending on implementation, news sites could offer a tl;dr toggle button that gives a quick multi-graph synopsis. As I recall USA Today and Digiday used to do something like this on longer pieces:
https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/632063182811467776
Here's a version of the functionality via the WayBackMachine that still works: https://web.archive.org/web/20150818075138/http://digiday.com:80/publishers/mics-social-approach-distributing-first-obama-interview/

Imagine how powerful a long running story could be with all of these features? Or even snippets of inter-related stories which could be plugged into larger wholes? Eg: The Trump Administration's handling of North Korea seen in fact snippets over time spanning months while pieces of this could be integrated into a larger Trump Administration mega-story going back to January or even the beginning of his campaign. Someone who hasn't been following along could jump back months or years to catch up relatively quickly, but still have access to more context that is often missing from bigger pieces which need to stand on their own relatively.




 

@dauwhe On first blush it looks like something superceded by microformats h-cards and other pieces within community for identity.

 

I'm curious what, if anything, you all think that the IndieWeb as a community could do or do better to make things easier for Generation 2 users?

Additionally is there something we all (as Gen2 users) could band together to do to make it easier for others like us not to have to "suffer" as we did? Comments back to this are welcome, as is conversation in the channel, or even brainstorming on the wiki (perhaps the generations page: https://indieweb.org/generations#Generation_2_IndieWeb)

 

@keithjgrant @SaraSoueidan @snookca @danmall @adactio There are some micropub clients that will do this on mobile http://indieweb.org/Micropub/Clients#Micropublish