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Replied to a post on github.com :

"Summary" field not maintaining data · Issue #30 · dshanske/indieweb-post-kinds https://github.com/dshanske/indieweb-post-kinds/issues/30

The field "Summary" under the "Citation" tab in prior versions was constantly self-updating with details of the original website/URL and not allowing the editor to make permanent changes which then propagate to their site.

Under the changes in v2.2.0 it seems like one can finally make changes to this field manually, but after saving/publishing, the field seems to self-delete and any future updates to the post result in the "Summary" text disappearing from the final post (at least from my tests with bookmark post types.)

 

Replied to a post on github.com :

General Suggestions for data and UI · Issue #29 · dshanske/indieweb-post-kinds https://github.com/dshanske/indieweb-post-kinds/issues/29

First, I love some of the new changes in v2.2.0!

Here are some additional random thoughts for improving the layout and positioning of some of the final published look of particular posts, if they're not on your "roadmap":

Add an author URL field which could then wrap the data input into "Author/Artist Name" field. For those that want to use it, it makes for a nice way to promote the original author, particularly for properly crediting "bookmarked" items.

In the bookmark post type layout, the order and presentation of the data could be a bit more streamlined.
`Eg: Bookmarked: (Name/Title) in/from (Site Name/Publication/Album) by (Author/Artist Name)`
Currently it displays as "(Name/Title) on (Site Name/Publication/Album)" and "on" may be an awkward preposition for most cases, though it does work for Albums. Similarly the author name is currently just under the title of the post with no other data, which may be somewhat confusing. I note that some of the post formats are slightly different in how they display, but they could certainly be a bit more systematized/similar with appropriate grammar.

I haven't dug into it, but does the author photo URL have a preset size? One of my sample tests displayed a fairly large photo which was oversize compared to what I might have liked. Otherwise adding a sizing field(s) (height/width or percentage) to add to the image output would be useful for its ultimate display.

I love the idea of the featured image! I presume it will actually be output in the layout in some future release to make for more visually interesting posts?

 
 

@jgmac1106 You can + to jgregorymcverry.com with plugin/instructions from http://indiewebcamp.com/wordpress & https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb/

 

For , as an example of , take a look at the comments automatically coming back on this post: http://boffosocko.com/2015/07/27/algebraic-number-theory-ucla-extension/

 

I'm curious if anyone from is using any tools or perhaps @WithKnown?http://indiewebcamp.com/ https://withknown.com/

 

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Sorry for the delay, but my work schedule and travel have been awfully heavy lately. It does sound like the issue I'm having is somewhat related to the discussion on https://github.com/raamdev/independent-publisher/issues/155

I've got two separate installs with the same IndieWeb plugins installed. One uses Independent Publisher and the other is a slightly older version of the Academica Theme (v1.2.3 downloadable from https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ym0c78uyzltpeu1/AAByejNd8MG83I2MVOFXOuPaa?dl=0) which is outputting the facebook likes, twitter favorites, and reposts properly (or at least as I would expect.)

For some reason Independent Publisher isn't outputting Brid.gy likes, favorites, or resahares from Twitter and Facebook out of the box the way that Academica (or even WP common themes like Twenty Fourteen or Twenty Fifteen) does. They're not showing up at all. On the site with Academica Theme, I've tried doing a "Live Preview" of the Independent Publisher theme and there, it also seems to be "eating" (not showing) these additional comments from Brid.gy while all the other traditional comments do show up.

However, while you're tracking down the issue(s), you might also consider tweaking one additional output issue with respect to these types of comments. From a UI standpoint for themes using IndieWeb, I would recommend that the comment section sort out the comments and display them somewhat differently. For simple Facebook likes and Twitter favorites, it might be best to aggregate all of them into a facepile [http://indiewebcamp.com/facepile] with a simple header ("Liked on Facebook"/"Favorited on Twitter") followed by the photo icons of the people who liked/favorited the article within those platforms. (This is similar to how most Wordpress sites handle Likes/Stars natively within WordPress.) Following this it could create a facepile of people who reposted/reshared the post. Then after this the rest of the comments should be sorted by date/time as comments traditionally are as this will allow people to more easily read/consume the actual commentary.

This post has an example of a combination of likes/favorites/reposts and actual comments that would be better sorted into a facepile section followed by a more "traditional" comments section. http://boffosocko.com/2015/07/27/algebraic-number-theory-ucla-extension/

I'm supposing that it's how Independent Publisher is rendering the output of wp_commentmeta into its comment section that causes some of these brid.gy-fed likes/favorites/reposts to disappear.

If it helps, I'll also point out a previous and possibly related issue I'd run across vis-a-vis IndieWeb and output of comments: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention-for-comments/issues/1. The solution was most likely the way that the Semantic Linkbacks plugin (an IndieWeb WP-specific plugin) was handling its output. Here it's likely that @dshanske or pfefferle may be of more assistance in sorting things out if necessary.

 
 

A year ago I began using @WithKnown. Along with it's how I've always thought the web should work. Thanks IndieWebbers!

 

is nearly here! Have you signed up? The Movement and Drupal http://2015.drupalcampla.com/sessions/indieweb-movement-and-drupal

 

I'm still attempting to understand the larger world of indieweb code for WP, but I'm relatively sure that the issue I'm seeing is potentially coming out of the WP Semantic-Linkbacks plugin.

The issue:
Likes from Facebook as well as likes and RT's from Facebook are feeding into the the WP comments dashboard from brid.gy properly, but once being approved, aren't actually showing up in the comments section of the related WP post.
I've done a quick test with a comment with text on the same Facebook post and don't seem to be seeing the same issue and it seems to show up fine in the comments on the post once approved.

Example:
WP post: <a href="http://lfl8424.boffosocko.com/2015/08/20/todays-books-august-20-2015/">http://lfl8424.boffosocko.com/2015/08/20/todays-books-august-20-2015/</a>;
Associated facebook post: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ChrisAldrich/posts/10100846770831315">https://www.facebook.com/ChrisAldrich/posts/10100846770831315</a>;

As this is a relatively new site, perhaps there's some small thing that I'm missing or forgetting? I set it all up with the WP IndieWeb plugin (v2.2.0) and everything within it is current and installed/configured (except Hum and Micropub).

Its possible that it's something similar to a related issue I'd had before on a different WP install (see: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention-for-comments/issues/1) though that seemed to be fixed (by itself?) shortly thereafter.

Within the WP admin interface, (http://lfl8424.boffosocko.com/wp-admin/comment.php?action=editcomment&c=25)
in the editable comment section, I'm seeing something similar to the following:

<code><a href="http://lfl8424.boffosocko.com/2015/08/20/todays-books-august-20-2015" rel="nofollow"></a>
<a href="http://lfl8424.boffosocko.com/2015/08/20/todays-books-august-20-2015/" rel="nofollow"></a></code>

So there is data there, it's just not being parsed/rendered properly somewhere.

Since I've got another WP set up that seems to be operating properly with the same general set up, has anyone got any ideas?

 

The IndieWeb Movement and Drupal

A BoF session about IndieWeb at DrupalCampLA

Location: Drupal Camp Los Angeles, UC Irvine Campus, Student Center, Irvine, CA

Time:

Ends:

See also: http://2015.drupalcampla.com/sessions/indieweb-movement-and-drupal
Specific time of the session will be determined and set on/around week of 8/23/15.

The IndieWeb is a growing people-focused alternative to the ‘corporate web’.

This BoF session is encouraged for all levels of Drupal users: beginner, intermediate, and advanced. Developers, and particularly those working for larger corporations, should be interested in the benefits that some of the IndieWeb principles can convey to the marketing/communications departments of their clients' companies.

Haven't you (or your clients) always wanted to be the "hub" of your own online presence with ancillary social services helping to serve your purposes rather than the services' own interests? Isn't this why we all want to build and have our own online spaces in the first place?

With the rise of areas like social media, it's often the case that much of our content and material lives in corporate silos like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, and a variety of other sites. Sadly, as netizens, we do not have direct control over these sites, often can't export our data from them, and they can be (and often are) bought out or shut down at almost a moments notice. Worse, comments and interaction with our content is typically also stuck in these silos and it lives or dies with them. Wouldn't you love to have the network effect and value that these sites bring without the extra work or hindrances they bring?

There is a growing and very viable alternative to this model which is being built by the IndieWebCamp community as a multi-platform and opensource project which dovetails well with the ideals of the Drupal community.

Those who are interested in learning about and discussing some of the basic principles and philosophies of the movement are encouraged to attend. We'll chat about some of the current projects and capabilities as well as open standards that help enable the functionality you've always wanted (or maybe didn't know you wanted until now) in your websites.

Moving forward, we can all build IndieWeb principles into the Drupal platform to help it remain relevant as the web continues to grow and evolve.

A wealth of information about the IndieWeb community can be found at their website, but as a brief overview some of their basic principles appear below:

Your content is yours
When you post something on the web, it should belong to you, not a corporation. Too many companies have gone out of business and lost all of their users’ data. By joining the IndieWeb, your content stays yours and in your control.

You are better connected
Your articles and status messages can go to all services, not just one, allowing you to engage with everyone. Even replies and likes on other services can come back to your site so they’re all in one place.

You are in control
You can post anything you want, in any format you want, with no one monitoring you. In addition, you share simple readable links such as example.com/ideas. These links are permanent and will always work.

Category: BoF
Skill: Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced
Duration: One hour
Session Tags: , , , ,

 

The IndieWeb Movement and Drupal

3 min read

The IndieWeb is a growing people-focused alternative to the ‘corporate web’.

This BoF session is encouraged for all levels of Drupal users: beginner, intermediate, and advanced. Developers, and particularly those working for larger corporations, should be interested in the benefits that some of the IndieWeb principles can convey to the marketing/communications departments of their clients' companies.

Haven't you (or your clients) always wanted to be the "hub" of your own online presence with ancillary social services helping to serve your purposes rather than the services' own interests? Isn't this why we all want to build and have our own online spaces in the first place?

With the rise of areas like social media, it's often the case that much of our content and material lives in corporate silos like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, and a variety of other sites. Sadly, as netizens, we do not have direct control over these sites, often can't export our data from them, and they can be (and often are) bought out or shut down at almost a moments notice. Worse, comments and interaction with our content is typically also stuck in these silos and it lives or dies with them. Wouldn't you love to have the network effect and value that these sites bring without the extra work or hindrances they bring?

There is a growing and very viable alternative to this model which is being built by the IndieWebCamp community as a multi-platform and opensource project which dovetails well with the ideals of the Drupal community.

Those who are interested in learning about and discussing some of the basic principles and philosophies of the movement are encouraged to attend. We'll chat about some of the current projects and capabilities as well as open standards that help enable the functionality you've always wanted (or maybe didn't know you wanted until now) in your websites.

Moving forward, we can all build IndieWeb principles into the Drupal platform to help it remain relevant as the web continues to grow and evolve.

A wealth of information about the IndieWeb community can be found at their website, but as a brief overview some of their basic principles appear below:

Your content is yours

When you post something on the web, it should belong to you, not a corporation. Too many companies have gone out of business and lost all of their users’ data. By joining the IndieWeb, your content stays yours and in your control.

You are better connected

Your articles and status messages can go to all services, not just one, allowing you to engage with everyone. Even replies and likes on other services can come back to your site so they’re all in one place.

You are in control

You can post anything you want, in any format you want, with no one monitoring you. In addition, you share simple readable links such as example.com/ideas. These links are permanent and will always work.

Category: BoF

Skill: Beginner

Duration: One hour

Session Tags: IndieWeb, social media, Open Source, web architecture, open standards

Register for the session at 2015 Drupal Camp LA at http://2015.drupalcampla.com/sessions/indieweb-movement-and-drupal

 

I'm hosting a BoF session for for Drupal at the upcoming @ladrupal http://2015.drupalcampla.com/sessions/indieweb-movement-and-drupal

 

Drupal & ? @KevinMarks I'm making plans for @LADrupal in 2 weeks & was considering a session to introduce people to the movement.

I've dabbled in for a while via WordPress and @WithKnown, but I'm curious if anyone can give me some advice/help/pointers with logistics from the IndieWebCamp side? It's been a while since there was something in the LA area (http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/Hollywood), but it would be nice to have the relatively large developer community here more engaged on a regular basis. Perhaps this meeting of about 500 at the UC Irvine campus can help to spill over into regular meetings in the Los Angeles and Southern California areas?

Is there anyone in the area who's available August 29th (preferably) or 30th that would like to join me in doing this?